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Gyanendra Singh Parmar
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:07 pm Back to top

Members kindly give their opinion as we know post of Sr. PWS is going to be merged in JE(PW)what effect we shall see after merger of Sr. PWS in to JE(PW). Is it mean JEs are going to be posted in every gang like a mate?
            
            
            
- Gyanendra Singh Parmar SSE/P.Way/W.C.Rly. ... 11-07-13

Dharampal Bhartiya
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:19 pm Back to top

R/Sir,
I think JEs won't be posted in gangs but each unit in charge (SSE/P.Way/over all Incharge) will get his share of 1,2 or 3 special JEs in addition to those manning the section as his assistants.
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Dharm Pal.
            
            
            
- Dharampal Bhartiya J.E (P.Way) BUNDI ... 11-07-13


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Umesh Gupta
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:51 am Back to top

I think that existing overall incharge will be group B (after getting this upgradation),existing sectional will be indepandant incharge ,JE will be the incharge of existing unit ,Track maintaner gr I will work as existing mate,Track maintainer gr II will work as k/man & Track maintaner gr III & IV will work asexisting t/man after getting this cader restructring.
            
            
            
- Umesh Gupta Senior Section Engineer (P.Way) ... 12-07-13

Gyanendra Singh Parmar
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:10 am Back to top

My Dear Dharmpal ji I intention of this letter Mr. Gupta has made it clear. my worry is this now who will join railway as PWI? everyone will agree that PWI (SSE/JE) is a man bearing very high responsibility with a little payment. Now this post going to loose its status also.
            
            
            
- Gyanendra Singh Parmar SSE/P.Way/W.C.Rly. ... 12-07-13

B.K. Sharma
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:21 pm Back to top

I am agree that the level of JE/SSE will go down. I think the job profile and working of JE/SSE is well known in the country. It shows clear image of JE/SSE.
            
            
            
- B.K. Sharma SSE/Pway/ETW NCR ... 12-07-13

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:42 am Back to top

Merger of Sr,PWS with JE/P.way has become a reality. This has been done under the pressure from unions. 50% of Sr. PWS posts will be upgraded to SSE. and most of JEs will be promoted. There will be many SSEs& JEs but only few will be responsible as SSE in-Charge and sub-section JEs. Administration should now think how to reward SSE in-Charge and sub-section JEs who are responsible for safety.
            
            
            
- TOMSON ARIMPUR  ... 13-07-13

Gyanendra Singh Parmar
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 8:50 pm Back to top

this is a really confusing condition. it means sectional JE/SSE shall remain in existence? I was thinking JE (PW) shall be the In charge of gang and SSE(PW) shall be overall in charge.
            
            
            
- Gyanendra Singh Parmar SSE/P.Way/W.C.Rly. ... 13-07-13

Shri Rashmi Ranjan Dash
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 12:22 pm Back to top

The scenario will changed drastically.It is just like a person on the way to climbing a hill falls along with the land slide before reaching the hill top & there will be no scope for future advancement.
The so called administration will have ample opportunity to harash all JE/SSE/PW by playing with JE/SSE/PW like a football.
JAI HOOOOOOOOOO
            
            
            
- Shri Rashmi Ranjan Dash SSE ... 14-07-13

Raghav Namdeo
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:14 am Back to top

It come to notice that there is planning for merger of all category as JE/ Civil & SSE/ Civil. He is respoinsible for all p-way, works and Bridge works under his jurisdiction. I think that section shall be small and JEs are incharge of MMU Unit in the section. Planning part is wholy on SSE/ Inchage. There is no sectional JE. Complete maintainance is based on TRC and TMS.
            
            
            
- Raghav Namdeo SSE/PWay/Construction ... 16-07-13

V Natarajan
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 2:20 pm Back to top

Is there any circular for merger of PWS with JE?.

From one of the postings above, it seems that 50% of posts of PWS will be upgraded to JE, then this is not a merger. This is only an avenue given for promoting more PWS to JE. The element of direct recruitment in JE will also increase as per the ratio of promotees vs direct.

For posts upgraded, PWS will be promoted to JE as per seniority cum suitability after setting aside the %age for direct recruitment. We have seen such upgradations earlier also when %age of SSE/SE were increased by corresponding decrease in %age of JE-II/JE-I .

In such a scenerio the duty list will be as per respective posts they hold. JE will have to do duties of JE and PWS have to do duties of PWS. Since posts of JE & PWS carry same payscale & emolument, there is also a move to give more responsibilities to PWS. On Western Railway revised duty list giving more responsibilities to PWS has already been issued by CTE as local instructions.

If some posts of SSE/SE are upgraded to Gr`B' status, there will still be no change in their responsibilities of these SSE/SE and they cannot become AENs automatically by virtue of getting Gr`B'. All these upgraded posts of SSE/SE in Gr`B' will be pinpointed.

Now we have AENs & Adhoc DENs in Gr`B'.In future we may have some SSE(Gaz), AEN & Adhoc DENs in Gr`B'.

DEN is a Gr`A' post and is occupied by Gr`B' officer on adhoc basis only.
            
            
            
- V Natarajan AEN(TP)CCG ... 16-07-13

Anil Kumar Shahi
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 9:13 pm Back to top

The circular of merging grade has been issued on 03.07.2013.
In year 1983 in beginning of my service I also have seen circular in which in each division two to three CPWI was proposed to be posted as gazetted PWI ,but tis was never materlised in engg. department,
            
            
            
- Anil Kumar Shahi ADEN G ,SEC Rly ... 16-07-13

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:38 am Back to top

It's not 50% PWS posts upgradation. 100% merger with no selection, suitability or any thing, But all are upgraded. Then strength of JE+SSE will go up. The increased strength will be distributed as re-sructuring formula. So nearly 50% JEs will be promoted to SSE.
            
            
            
- TOMSON ARIMPUR  ... 18-07-13

SARITH KUMAR B
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:44 pm Back to top

Circular (RBE:64/2013) states that all the posts of Sr.PWS to be merged with JE/P.Way. So is the post of Sr.PWS being abolished?
            
            
            
- SARITH KUMAR B SSE/P.Way ... 19-07-13

Gyanendra Singh Parmar
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:04 pm Back to top

same thing we are discussing here. what this merger means ? it is very much clear now every gang shall have JE (PW) and 50% existing JEs likely to be promoted as SSE(PW). what will happen to post of sectional JE/SSE? Is it not going to abolish?
            
            
            
- Gyanendra Singh Parmar SSE/P.Way/W.C.Rly. ... 19-07-13

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 4:53 pm Back to top

The post of Sr.PWS will be aboilshed. Functions of Sr.PWS will have to be handled by JEs.Section in-charge and sub-section in-charge will be SSEs. Special works can be JEs. Gangs will have to be headed by the Mates only. Restructuring of track men, where Mates will be placed in GP 2800, is yet to be implemented.
            
            
            
- TOMSON ARIMPUR  ... 20-07-13
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